A long-time Framlingham Aboriginal elder and trust committee member claims that former administrator Geoff Clark made all the decisions about financial matters.
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Elder Aunty Violet Clark continued giving evidence in a Warrnambool Magistrates Court committal hearing on Thursday into a $2.48 million fraud case.
Former Framlingham Aboriginal Trust administrator Geoff Clark, his wife Trudi and two of their sons, Jeremy and Aaron, have been charged by police with a total of 1171 offences.
Geoff Clark has always maintained his innocence.
In cross-examination, Ms Clark said elders on the FAT committee of management were not involved in decision making.
"It never happened, I'm sorry," she said.
She agreed that Geoff Clark was selected by elders to be the trust administrator, but that did not give him permission to make financial decision concerning the trust.
"No, not as far as I know," she said.
She said that in relation to business and finance, "I never made no decisions".
Asked if she should have paid more attention to the trust's financial arrangements, Ms Clark said "it's a bit late for that".
Ms Clark said that when money came in it was the administrator who decided how it was spent.
She also denied that discussion about the payment of Geoff Clark's legal fees were held at community meetings.
"Not to my knowledge ," she said.
Ms Clark said that legal fees in relation to a rape case committal hearing in 2002-03 were not discussed by the FAT committee.
"I would not have consented to Fram paying the fees," she said.
The prosecution alleges that Geoff Clark accumulated legal bills of $900,000 in a series of legal actions and it's claimed $549,744 was paid to lawyers by the trust and associated entities.
Ms Clark confirmed a split was caused in the Framlingham community by the rape allegations and subsequent events, claiming the treatment of her family "was an absolute disgrace".
The elder said that Geoff Clark helped the Harradine family buy a farm at Princetown through an application to the Indigenous Land Council.
"I guess Geoff helped them," she said.
There was also a similar successful application involving the purchase of a farm south-east of the Grampians for the Chatfield family.
Ms Clark said talk about making a similar application for her family "never went anywhere".
She said she saw people living in a Framlingham trust house paying Geoff Clark money.
The elder said she never heard that a property in Scotts Road at Halls Gap was owned by the community, adding, "I always thought it was Geoff Clark's house".
She said that none of the Framlingham community went to that house.
Ms Clark recalled a meeting took place in early 2010 involving herself, former trust employee Michael Fitzgerald and Geoff Clark.
She said that issues relating to the rent paid for an industrial shed was raised and that her and Mr Fitzgerald tried to have payments stopped to Trudi Clark because she hadn't worked at the trust since 2002.
Ms Clark claimed that Geoff Clark said "stop talking s...".
"We trusted people," she said.
Ms Clark also claimed that proper records of FAT meetings were not kept or made available and that notification of meetings was always through word of mouth.
In relation to the tabling of financial records at annual general meetings, Ms Clark said: "I always had faith and trust and I left it at that".
Ms Clark agreed that health and welfare community, particularly children, was her primary concern
She said she was not interested in farming or eel fishing.
"I always thought it was men's business," she said, adding she didn't know the difference between a tractor and a stone crusher.
The committal continues on Friday before it's expected to be adjourned until June for another 10 days of hearings.
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