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Discount booze outlets swallow hotel markets

11 Jan, 2012 03:00 AM
TRADITIONAL country pubs are facing an uncertain future as supermarket giants eat further into the retail alcohol market.

There are forecasts many hotels without supplementary income from gaming machines could be forced to close within a decade.

Pub operators are witnessing falling sales in the face of heavy discounting, particularly by Coles and Woolworths, their specialty outlets and other discount chains which offer products cheaper than hotels can buy from suppliers. It is fuelling a trend to more off-premises consumption of packaged alcohol and less of the traditional pub bar-style drinking.

Even some country pub owners are buying supplies from the discounters.

A federal government push for a minimum floor price offers hope of a more level playing field, but the proposal is yet to get the nod from the National Preventative Health Agency.Warrnambool-based drug and alcohol agency WRAD predicts price control would go some way to easing the trend for drinkers to consume large amounts of cheap alcohol before attending licensed venues.

“There is no doubt the cheaper the prices the easier it is for people to get grog and that increases the health risk,” WRAD director Geoff Soma said.

“If the government looks at the taxing system and then puts that extra revenue back into the health treatment system it would be good.”

Warrnambool publican, John Hodge, of Rafferty’s Tavern, has called for stricter control by government and councils on issuing of retail alcohol licences.

“If the government can put a cap on the number of pokies why can’t they do the same with alcohol,” he said. “Hotels and other licensed premises get hounded on responsible serving of alcohol and get blamed for anti-social behaviour linked to alcohol, but supermarkets get off scott-free.”

Camperdown publican Denis Madden, of the Commercial Hotel, agreed. He has seen the pub sector share of alcohol sales fall from 80 per cent to less than 40 per cent in a few decades.

However, Woolworths dismissed the hoteliers’ claims.

“Woolworths makes no apology for delivering good value and we have an industry-leading approach to responsible selling,” company community relations manager Simon Berger said.

“Claims by competitors that alcohol sold by them is OK, but alcohol sold by us isn’t, should be taken with a grain of salt.

“With alcohol already subject to significant excise, regulating prices or restricting competition would only penalise the majority of Australians who responsibly enjoy alcohol as part of their social lives.”

Australian Hotels Association Victorian chief executive Brian Kearney said erosion of the market by supermarkets was an international trend.

“The packed liquor market for pubs is getting ripped out from under them,” he said. Warrnambool has discount liquor outlets in three Coles supermarkets and the Coles-owned K. M. Lynch cellars, two Woolworths supermarkets and a Dan Murphy’s with a third Woolies on the way, an IGA liquor department, an Aldi liquor section with another on the way and an independent Pre-Mix King chain outlet plus five hotel drive-through bottle shops and four other pubs with packed liquor departments.

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Can you ask Mr Madden to do some Math for me plz?

I go into a bottleO to buy a carton of VB (24 Stubbies) and it cost me around $45 right?

Then the next week I go into the bottleO and buy a 6 Pack and it cost me over $20. Say what?

In my books, im paying nearly half the price for a quarter of the product. That’s not discount beer, that’s price per litre.

Any wonder people are buying elsewhere other than pubs Mr Madden as when we buy a quarter of a slab in the supermarket we get charged a quarter of the price, not half.

Its not rocket surgery.


Posted by bluey, 11/01/2012 7:14:47 AM, on The Warrnambool Standard
Mr Hodge,

Do you ever see people out fighting on the streets and other antisocial behaviour after buying alcohol from the supermarket to have a few quiet ones at home?

NO

You see the fighting, peeing, swearing and other antisocial behaviour on the streets just outside of the pub directly after vacating your premises (and others like it) after you’ve sold them a skinfull of alcohol.

Stop crying and take responsibility for your own actions.


Posted by bluey, 11/01/2012 7:25:14 AM, on The Warrnambool Standard
Another story about a business losing ground due to changes in customer buying habits. This has been happening for the last 10 years and only now they want to try and save their business?

No sympathy for owners that are stuck in the past - you need to sell what customers want to buy. No one buys Bex powder any more, or inner tubes for cars and you don't see them whinging.

Maybe pubs should go back to what makes them useful so they attract customers from the bottle shops. Bring back good counter meals, live bands, welcome and clean bars, dart boards, pool tables etc etc.

Pokies will only do harm.

Posted by Wake up and smell the coffee, 11/01/2012 8:03:58 AM, on The Warrnambool Standard
Have you seen the price of beer these days? It's enough to drive a man to drink.

Could Geoff Soma please show the evidence that higher alcohol prices prevent ill health. Or is the money simply taken away for other areas of the budget? Forcing people to pay higher prices only harms those most at risk. Perhaps having a beer should only be for the wealthy.

If anything, there should see less regulation. In most countries you can buy alcohol from your local shop, and at a much more reasonable prices. Placing more regulation and tax will only support those who can afford to benefit from it.

Posted by The Eternal Footman, 11/01/2012 8:25:55 AM, on The Warrnambool Standard
Warrnambool publican, John Hodge, of Rafferty’s Tavern, has called for stricter control by government and councils on issuing of retail alcohol licences. Is this the same hotel that is applying for poker machines and accusing city hall of not playing fair!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bam Bam, 11/01/2012 8:48:51 AM, on The Warrnambool Standard
These publicans are doing themselves harm by going to the discount places to buy their stock. By shopping at the supermarkets, they are putting more dollars in their tills, allowing them to discount prices even further. Perhaps the smaller pubs should join forces and buy in bulk from the brewery to try and get a better deal. One big order, one delivery fee surely there has to be some sort of saving to be had.
Posted by aford, 11/01/2012 10:26:40 AM, on The Warrnambool Standard
Cheap liquor from supermarkets? I don't think so! Australians pay some of the highest prices in the world for alcohol. A quick internet search revealed the following: 24 bottles of Heineken costs $47 in Australia, $46 in NZ, $27 in the UK, $25 in the USA and $20 in South Africa. A bottle of Johnny Walker Red costs $34 in Australia, $30 in NZ, $30 in the UK, $18 in the USA and $16 in South Africa.
Posted by GetReal, 11/01/2012 10:44:47 AM, on The Warrnambool Standard
How pleasant it is to agree with all that the other writers have emailed.
Posted by Caz, 11/01/2012 10:52:51 AM, on The Warrnambool Standard
GetReal, does that take into account exchange rates? Also in alot of the countries you mention, you also have to add the tax to the ticketed price.
Posted by aford, 11/01/2012 11:29:53 AM, on The Warrnambool Standard
Well, this is a government issue. Until the government steps in and forces this Coles/Woolworths duopoly to be broken up nothing will change and small operators will continue to dissapear. Not just in alcohol, but in many other areas. Like Microsofts monopoly, the government can force the break up of these companies so that we can once again have the fundamental right to competition.
Posted by Screen Name, 11/01/2012 12:13:42 PM, on The Warrnambool Standard
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